What EDM Ghost Producers Say

To really understand the concept of ghost producing, we have to look deeper into the career of a modern DJ.

DJs and producers have been elevated out of nightclubs and recording studios and onto the main stages of music festivals. A new lifestyle that brings with it an entirely new set of responsibilities. The same demanding lifestyle that has caused nervous breakdowns in everyone from Oprah to Charlie Sheen. A 24/7 deluge of managers, publicists, fans, label reps, airports, photo shoots, interviews, social media, business meetings, performances, and oh yeah… making music.

Most people who work a “9 to 5″ job complain that they don’t have enough time to go to the gym, yet musicians are expected to produce a constant stream of quality music under these conditions. A common way to balance this workload is employing a ghost producer (sometimes referred to as an “engineer”).

This sort of collaboration is arguably the most important force in art and many of history’s greatest works have been collaborations, both public and private. Almost any world renown fine artist – from Andy Warhol to Kaws – operates a studio employing several talented young artists to create masterpieces under their guidance.

Musically, even the most famous solo musicians have worked with teams of producers, writers, and engineers to compose their hits. Look at the credits on almost any Kanye West record and you will find co-writers and additional musicians who loaned their support. The Beatles had four members (plus producer Phil Specter) involved in the creative process. So how can we then vilify David Guetta for getting a little help producing music that appeals to millions worldwide?

“I think it’s really important that people know how the whole thing works because it’s not that bad at all,” insists Max, “It works both ways. It’s also good for the people that listen to music because otherwise they wouldn’t have the music they have now… It brings quality to the table.”

Read the full article here: http://doandroidsdance.com/features/ghost-hunters-edm-ghost-producers-speak-out/

This time, Hardwell

Hardwell, world’s number one DJ, in a chat with inthemix revealed that he has done and is still doing ghost producing.

Hardwell says: “I’m fine with ghost-producing, but then again I don’t like it when…if you’re not producing your own tracks then just be honest, say ‘you know what, I’m a good DJ but I can’t produce my own songs, I got help,’ I think that’s fair. Because honestly, you can hear it, because every single track sounds totally different. Everybody in the scene knows who works with ghost-producers.” “The funny thing is, nobody knows I have a current Beatport Top Ten hit with a track not under my name, a track that I ghost-produced, and nobody’s noticing it. But if people listen closely to the top ten, for sure they’re gonna hear which track it is.”

We can take Hardwell’s sayings as an approve for Ghost Producing, can’t we?!

Read the full article here: http://inthemix.com/news/hardwell-nobody-knows-i-ghost-wrote-a-current-beatport-top-ten-hit/12788#

It’s EDM’s Secret

A significant number of famous DJs aren’t responsible for the music released under their names.

Those culpable usually have arrangements with an underling or an associate, ranging from commissioned edits and tweaks to outright purchases of entirely finished works. In fact, a whole industry of “ghost-producers” and engineers prop up the careers of a few brand name DJs who fistpump their way to fame and make millions.

Though the ghost producing practice has been rumored for decades, recent revelations have brought it into the spotlight.

EDM duo PeaceTreaty told OC Weekly earlier this year: “When you get more involved and you start working with bigger people, having ghostwriters is just the way it is. Everyone that’s big doesn’t write their own music.”

Read the full article here: http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2013/07/29/ghost-producing-is-edms-dirty-little-secret


Ghost Producing: to create music for an artist or a band and sell them all its credits to be released under their name. Huge acts are in favor of such services as they don’t want to miss their gigs spending time on making music, and also they want to be relevant to the scene at the same time.

Benny Benassi and Bassjackers too

Ghost producing is no more a taboo in EDM scene, especially when you become a big name, you won’t have enough time to sit at your studio and design sounds and wrap up a track. We are hearing such things a lot lately. If both parties in the ghost producing procedure are OK and happy, so there isn’t any problem with that.

If you listen to mainstream dance music, you should get comfortable with the thought that you’re probably being mislead.  One of your favorite artists probably doesn’t make the tunes that you praise them for.  They are more human and less genius than you think.  But there are rare instances like Benny Benassi, who actually cites his cousin Alle as his ghost producer.  And goes even further by publicly using the term:

Sure, this isn’t news. Beatport actually ran a marvelous interview back in July of last year with Alle Benassi where he says that “the DJ is the musical memory of the duo and brings the club vibe into the equation while the musician plays the parts.”  These cousins are collaborators that don’t hide the moving parts to the machine, and it’s commendable.  DJs admitting to using ghost producers is becoming more commonplace, and we’re applauding this open honesty.

We’re seeing more and more mainstream artists willingly list their collaborators.  Though Chuckie‘s forthcoming single “Dirty Funkin Beats” only lists his name on the artwork, he credits Maarten Vorwerk, someone who has been cited as a ghost producer for more than a dozen acts that include Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike and Sandro Silva & Quintino.  Vorwerk has repeatedly declined interviews to discuss this matter, and though the industry knows that his production is actually fueling quite a bit of mainstream dance music, he stays quiet and very few DJs actually admit his involvement.  An instagram quote from Chuckie yesterday says: “My new club track “Dirty Funkin’ Beats” that I produced in collaboration with the legend Maarten Vorwerk is out at the end of January! Stay tuned! #dirtydutch #djchuckie

Vorwerk walks away with a check.  Chuckie gets to focus on spinning records.  Great music is heard by large audiences. And everyone walks away happy.  But these DJs actually admitting that they work with (or not so much with) producers that make the tunes that they’re pushing on tour is the last piece missing in order to turn ghost production into a positive business.

We also have seen honest dialogue from Bassjackers, who have an arrangement where Marlon Flohr publicly represents the brand, and Ralph van Hils produces. They don’t shy away from it, speak on it openly and publicly, and both are happy with this arrangement.  It’s a business model where both parties contribute equally in their own way, and both are happy.  Marlon doesn’t have to worry about making records, and Ralph doesn’t have to burn himself out touring on the road.

Read the full article here: http://doandroidsdance.com/features/benny-benassi-bassjackers-ghost-production/

Martin Garrix was a ghost producer

In an interview, Martin Garrix talked about his being signed to Spinnin’ Records and he revealed that he was a ghost producer before.

He says he ghost produced a track, it got signed to Spinnin’, they understood, and invited him to play his stuff for them, and they signed him.

It seems that Spinnin’ Records is totally OK with this ghost producing thing because they have not said anything against it even after finding one of their hit tracks had been ghost produced.

Spinnin’ Records is a Netherlands based electronic music label founded in 1999. It has been home to artists such as Afrojack, Nicky Romero and Bingo Players, as well as serving as the parent label to over 20 smaller imprints.

Read the full article here: http://www.magneticmag.com/2013/11/does-spinnin-records-condone-ghost-production-edm-news/